I just don't like it. Spidey doesn't need extra arms-he has spidey sense to tell him if anything is going to hurt him from behind or around the bend ( which has been elevated since his resurrection or coming out of the cocoon). What do you think?
How do you feel about Peter Parker unmasking before the world, showing himself to be Spider-Man. Good? Bad? Don't Care?

but I want to make sure people see this posting. Spidey's unmasking puts everyone he's ever loved or cared about in jeopardy-I 'm gonna have to take Captain America's side in the Civil War. Too many bad possibilities if exposed, as Pete will soon find out.

I'm always torn with situations like this. I really think comics should move more, be more progressive, but then changes like this happen and it bothers me. Should spider-man change his suit? Well why not? Especially if the suit has extra arms and other goodies, the more power the more bester (even though there's more responsibility). Then again, I like Spideys old suit. The least he could do is make the new one look like the old one since he can will it to.

Then there's his unmasking. I've read Spider-man on and off and, well, who doesn't like Spider-man? I still wouldn't say I'm a hardcore fan though. I know a lot of spidey fans are really pissed about this and everything. There's just that little voice in the back of my head saying change is good though.

Then there's the unmasking. Super heroes aren't the same as cops and judges because cops and judges don't have super villains (typically). Judge Eto has to worry about a few random normal punks. Spider-man has to worry about a man with a bunch of super strong metal arms, sunglasses and a bad hair cut. Even if the Judge sentences Doc Oc to jail who's Doc going to blame? Spidey, not the Judge!

So there you have it, my fanboy side and writer side are at odds. I think the fanboy side wins out in the end though.

Am I the only Spider fan that this stuff has affected? The costume I could learn to live with but unmasking on CNN, FoxNews, ABC, CBS, NBC, and every other news agency in the world isn't a good idea.

Like Eltee - I'm not a huge Spider-Man follower.
The last issue I bought was about a year ago.

But of course - like everyone - I'm a fan of the character.

The costume change didn't affect me one way or the other. It's temporary. Neat to see what a new costume may look like, but I'd still prefer Romita-style Classic Spider-Man.

And I love the amount of attention being paid to comics in mass media. It's about time they put us on some of their dumb "Entertainment" segments. At least Marvel broke through and made comics *news* again.

Sure, the news segments may not be the best. Downright embarrasing at times. That's because they are mostly made by people who may not know the comics culture well. "Pow!" usually appears a couple of times in the segment - and maybe a little "this is kids stuff" gibberish too.

Terry

The new Spidey suit didn't bother me. I'm a fan of the old style though. The unmasking? It changes the whole dynamic of the comic. No more story lines, or plot points revolving around the need to keep a secret identity, etc. I'll reserve judgment until I see how it plays out in the coming issues.

His unmasking bothers me a bit. I mean cival war is a big story line, and its gonna be with us for a while, but when it's done they're just gonna write something gawd awful to put him back in the mask.

I mean it's spidey for petes sake. Why him out of all the characters? His secret id is a big part of him.

Meh. But what do I know. They put him in the avengers.

I got a chuckle outa that one. [/i]

lol, to me, it makes no sense. How is he or anyone he knows and loves going to be safe??

I mean someone can walk right up to May, or Mary jane and cause a cautastrophe!!! Well, I'll see how it all comes together. There are consequences and there are effects.....good and bad

As far as revealing his secret identity to the world, didn't Marvel just try that unsuccesfully with Iron Man? I don't see the result being any different with Spider Man. In a little while they'll have to try to write their way out of it and somehow restore his secret identity.

"It was all a dream..."

T

I can see it now...Front page of the Daily Bugle: PETER PARKER: I'M NOT SPIDERMAN. I WAS IMPERSONATED BY PATRICK DUFFY! Seriously, though, why mess with a successful character? It seems that companies struggle to get characters that resonate with readers, and when the succeed and the book becomes popular, they always want to change the characters drastically until they lose what they had.

IMO Peter unmasking has been the worst part of Civil War... I just hate it, darn that Joe Quesada...

They had to do it. They had managed to purge most of Spiderman's readers with the whole "Peter's a clone" fiasco, but there were still some left, so they're bayonetting the survivors.

But it really eats at me. I really dislike it.

Marvel really ought to develop their own "Elseworlds" imprint. It's done wonders for DC. Want Batman to be a cowboy? or a vampire? or Superman to be a communist? Just dump it in the Elseworlds line. The critics will love it. Nobody else will read it. But the rest of us will still be able to enjoy our favorite characters without having their continuity completely trashed.

Just a thought...

Personally, I've enjoyed more than a few Elseworld issues. I *love it* when characters aren't bound by the confines of 20, 30, even 50 years of "continuity". How *any* writer nagigates such a convoluted mess is beyond me.

T

Gotham by Gaslight was cool, now that I think of it....

What I mean though, is that I think the best thing a writer can do for a character is maintain the status quo. At the end of a story leave the character where you found him. That way the "continuity" doesn't build up and make for constant ret-conning and undoing.

Granted, this sort of writing doesn't win Eisners, but it does win readers and keeps the character accessible to new readers. To use Spiderman as an example, have all the deaths, marriages, unmaskings, clones, etc. left Spidey in a better place than were he started out? I don't think so.

Actually the Tarzan/Superman Elseworlds story was good, too....

I don''t buy that... To me Peter revealing his secret identity to the world is in direct conflict with the whole "With Great Power, Comes Great Responsibility" thing... Because in reveling his secret, would and has put his family in danger, and made them even bigger targets... I think the onlt way Peter can get out of this is with a clone...

You make some very good points.

Yeah, actually I meant that "They had to do it" sarcastically.

I guess what I mean is, why change Spiderman at all? If everyone likes to read a title, isn't that a sign that you shouldn't change it?

Why not save all the cloning/unmasking stuff for a struggling title that needs some changes to generate interest?

Essentially "If it aint broke, don't fix it".

At least now that he has joined Cap's team he is back in his old Spidey suit!

How do y'all think Marvel will end all this Civil War crap?

Painlessly and peacefully

Registration guys win. (grrrrrrr) and then they start the new series with a different super hero team in each state.

THis just in...
© AP
Captain America
Comic Book Hero Captain America Dies
Mar 7, 1:11 PM EST


The Associated Press

NEW YORK - Captain America has undertaken his last mission — at least for now.

The venerable superhero is killed in the issue of his namesake comic that hit stands Wednesday, the New York Daily News reported. On the new edition's pages, a sniper shoots down the shield-wielding hero as he leaves a courthouse.

It ends a long run for the stars-and-stripes-we aring character, created in 1941. Over the years, some 210 million copies of Captain America comic books, published by New York-based Marvel Entertainment Inc., have been sold in 75 countries.

But resurrections are not unknown in the world of comics, and Marvel Entertainment Editor-in-Chief Joe Quesada said a Captain America comeback wasn't impossible.

Still, the character's death came as a blow to co-creator Joe Simon.

"We really need him now," said Simon, 93, who worked with artist Jack Kirby to devise Captain America as a foe for Adolf Hitler.

The superhero was spawned when a scrawny arts student named Steve Rogers, ineligible for the army because of his poor health but eager to serve his country, agreed to a "Super Soldier Serum" injection. The substance made him a paragon of physical perfection, armed only with his shield, his strength, his smarts and a command of martial arts.

In the comic-book universe, death is not always final. But even if Captain America turns out to have met his end in print, he may not disappear entirely: Marvel is developing a Captain America movie.

RIP Cap

Just when you think Marvel has hit rock bottom, they begin to dig.


-S

Pretty much. It's horrible

Do they just not like to make money?

I thought even a stopped clock was right twice a day. What happened to Marvel?


-S

That's the million dollar question. Damn I hope they get it together

They've got the stupid virus-the one where you hear stupid ideas and say "Hey that sounds great, let's do it..."

HURRY!!!! WE MUST GET A CURE!!!!!

Let me see if I get this right: A sniper shoots down the SHIELD-WIELDING hero? The best idea Marvel can come up with is to shoot a character whose gimmick is to ward off untold waves of bullets with his SHIELD? They should have had the Red Skull back over him in the parking lot. It would have been more imaginative.


To Aeslec:It's too late for a cure. Our only hope is for all the smart people to barricade themselves in shopping malls and stave off the hordes of Joe Quesada zombies. Save yourself!

-J

ROFL! J your HILARIOUS!

Incidentally, isn't it an even DUMBER idea to kill off a character that you're about to make a movie about?

Doesn't it pretty much guarantee the movie will tank?



-S

Yeah, it would be like killing spiderman before his new movie

Hey guys, I quit buying MARVEL crap after John Romita, Jr. quit the Amazing Spider-Man. Everything with MARVEL went downhill for me when the "Sins Past" storyline came out.

But...I did love J.R.,Jr.'s run on Wolverine though.

yeah that was awesome

Yeah, John Romita Jr. is a great artist. He does a good job on pretty much every title he works on (His talents are wasted on the Celestials, if you ask me).

Actually Marvel has gotten some good artists recently (Leinil Francis Yu, Ariel Olivetti just to name a couple more).

If their writing was as good as their art they'd be fine.


-S

I love him! His art rocks!!!!

L.F. Yu has been good for some time. Have y'all seen his X-Men stuff? It was great!

I didn't even pick that "Celestials" crap up. I've seen some examples of his work from the series but I don't care about the characters. I want John Romita, Jr. back on Amazing Spider-Man!

We should do a petition!

I agree and I'll sign it.